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Here
is some general background on the violence and the relationships in the
I have been keeping track of my correspondence with other people (the Eurobot family, Messianics and the genetics freaks among others) and have all my answers here.
Here is an extended Private Message with a chat user who said he could explain why Jews don’t get a free pass according to Romans 11...boring but you get the point that he hasn’t any explanation. [in Word format to save space]
Another extended Private message session – while this is not fascinating, it touches on many (but not all) of the major “Messianic” arguments and if you watch, you can see clearly how the speaker evades reasonable arguments challenging his statements.
If you would like the pdf version of the Historia Judaica article about the Simon Peter legend (from 1950), email me and I’ll send it along – it is over 5 megs and I don’t have online space to post it so I have it listed below as multiple jpg images.
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If you have any useful links or see any of these as dead links, send them to me at rosends@hotmail.com
First thing – If anyone
ever claims that Jews haven’t been in
Why Jews Don't Believe in Jesus
Let’s review those required criteria, shall we?
How to look at missionary “proofs”
The co-opting of the Tanach and turning it into the “Old” anything
So what is the Jewish Messiah?
A Christian site which also mentions other false prophets
Dude! How can he be the “messiah” when he wasn’t anointed?
So you think “elokim” is Plural, thus a reference to the trinity?
The torah uses human language so that people will understand (berachot 31b point K)
Man dies for his own sin! Sanhedrin 27b line 36
The four who entered paradise and the source that G-d has no form (chagigah 15a a(4))
Jesus Never Existed (Loads Slowly)
Another Jesus never Existed page
What exactly did Josephus write?
Why didn’t anyone else say anything about “Jesus”? (pdf)
More Burial Box Hoax (requires free registration)
Jesus’s Origin as Mithra the Hindu Sun God
There was no prophecy of a “new” Testatment
Jesus changed the laws! (six antitheses)
Unca Cecil’s Team gives the Straight Dope on who killed JC
Who were the “priests” at the time?
Was that court the true Sanhedrin?
The “trial” – some historical notes
A very thorough discussion of the trial (pdf format)
Who said the Temple needed “cleansing”?
On False Messiahs and Rising from the Dead
How Jewish is a Jew for Jesus?
An
Anti-Counter-Missionary page – enter at your own risk!
A messianic page which “proves” that Jesus was not God (I know, strange bedfellows)
What are the Missionary groups? (thanks to M_A_M)
Mohammed in the Song of Songs?
A good discussion of biblical atonement
The Second Vatican Council’s text which exonerates Jews
A Comprehensive Exposing of Christianity
What books aren’t in the Christian Bible and why?
The 7 Laws of the Sons of Noach (or “You Don’t have to be Jewish to get into heaven”)
A shorter explanation of the 7 laws
Even messianics agree that Jesus was a fan of the talmud
The Hagahot Baruch Frenkel which shows the connection
The texts which connect the Ninth of Tevet to Simon/Peter/Rav Shimon
An English article (in multiple jpg sections, sorry) which explains the Simon Peter situation
The Messianics argue about his name…
Three versions of the Hebrew medrash that Simon Peter was a rabbi who stayed Jewish!
Other assorted verses of import – prayer, death and salvation
A bunch of If questions to consider
Sources for a variety of arguments
What does UN Resolution 242 really mean?
What is this “Palestine” and where did it come from?
An essay about the history of “Palestine”
Land law and ownership in Israel
The conflict explained in maps
Take a look at article 12 of the Fateh constitution as it stands now
Thoughts about Islam and Israel
What really started the second Intifada
More about the “spontaneous” uprising
The Pact of Omar –
How Jews had to act in Muslim Lands
Mohammed’s relationship with Jews early on
Jewish “emancipation” and treatment in Muslim lands
Arabs serving in the IDF not buried by Muslim clerics
The senate text by James Inhofe listing reasons for Israel’s Right to Exist
Historical exploration of Dhimmitude
Terrorism and Arafat – many quotes
Institutional hate – Palestine Media watch
More historical info – from a Messianic site, so be careful (thanks to Bobby)
The Peace Encyclopedia on 1948
Details
about terrorism and a chart
Background on the “refugee” problem
Who was expelled and how and why
The historical Philistines (short)
The historical Philistines (long)
More History of the name/people
More Security Fence reflections
The Efficacy of the Fence, in chart form!
The source data for the charts and others
A list of attacks from Wikipedia
What Arabs in Israel’s government have said
What does the “security fence” really look like?
Here’s another fence being built
A Connection between Islam and the Third Reich
A funny cartoon which explains why America should give it all back…
The Flag of Israel (origin, specifications)
Being Arab Means…(by Nonie Darwish)
An pro-Israel Islamic site (caution – also pro Messianism)
The Larry (NOT DENNIS) Miller article
The full text of Mr. Miller’s column
Some responses to lies about Israel
A response to Moral Equivalency arguments
A picture puts things in perspective
A site with many defense sites on it
More defense stuff leading to another article at the bottom
What does it mean to be the “chosen” people?
The Mishna, Talmud and Kabbalah
More on the Kabbalah and stuff
Reform Judaism and the Kaballah
What is a Prophet and why isn’t Daniel’s prophecy considered prophecy?
The basics of waiting between meat and milk
The Jewish Encyclopedia Online
May one teach a non-Jew Torah?
A more detailed time line (this part is some of the 7th Century)
Great detailed archeology of historical Jerusalem at various times
The essential beliefs of Judaism according the Rambam
The word “Jew”, who is one and matrilineal descent
The Sabbath on Saturday or Sunday?
The end of the era of prophecy reference
Cantillation and singing the Torah
What about the Dead Sea Scrolls?
A fabulous resource for all things Jewish – check out the glossary and the files!
Partners in Torah – home study
More thoughts on the 4 letter name, especially the vowels
Lashon Harah – evil speech – may we ever use it?
One opinion as to what happens after we die
A summary of denial and sources to defend
In Hebrew – you need to have Hebrew fonts and be able to read Hebrew well
Tanach in English and Hebrew and the Talmud translated into English
LOTS (a veritable library) of Hebrew texts! In Hebrew
PDF versions of seforim for download
The 13 Ikkarim of the rambam in Hebrew
The current week's parsha with Rashi
Info in the books of the tanach
Prayer for the State of Israel in Hebrew, .doc format
A prayer for Children (in Hebrew)
Online transliterated siddurim/prayerbooks
The Mourner’s Kaddish (Hebrew and English)
The Chabad Library – full of online texts
More Hebrew Books and other halachik issues
The Book of Jasher (Sefer haYashar) 1
Zacuto’s Sefer Tahassin (pdf format)
Images of Artscroll books, insides and outsides
One Artscroll example – Davening for Yom Kippur Katan (.pdf)
Dafyomi shas background, point by point and review questions
The actual daf of the day (and all the others!)
Some linear translations of halacha
Info about versions of bible and languages
Textual and translational errors in the KJV
Bible Scholar resources via Google
The timeline of modern Zionism
More by Rabbi Student on the oaths
R. Shlomo Aviner's Kuntres She-Lo Ya'alu Ke-Homah
The UN resolution in 1947 and who voted how
A statistical glimpse of Israel at 55
What has Israel given to the world?
Israel and the UN (and the rest of the international community)
Israel’s Embassy in Washington – many resources
Transferring Jews out is a violation
Why the Jews – why are we hated?
The OU article about the Cohen Gene (in pdf)
Many snippets about genetic connections
The root directory of the two above
Nature article from July, 1998
The entire July, 1998 article in PDF
This explains the relationship between the 1997 and 1998 articles
A message thread about genetics
Are you related to King David?
I am – this page connects Nathan Spira to Rashi and another connects my family to Nathan Spira
The growth of the US Jewish population
Demographics of the US Jewish population
The study which provided the demographics
Jewish communities of the world
More Jewish communities of the world
How big is Israel compared to...
Will your grandchildren be Jewish chart
The ten lost tribes on public television
Find a house in a Jewish Neighborhood
A great list including name background, other texts in Hebrew and English, Holocaust info and such
Middle East Media Research Institute
Good collection of all things “linkworthy”
Why not just build a new temple now?
Religious Populations worldwide
Defense of Israel re: USS Liberty
The historical accuracy of the claim of “Jewish Terrorism”
Fain’s page (check out the siddurim and other documents in the middle, right side)
Kol Israel for radio, newspaper and other Israel links
Were there any Israeli spies on 9/11?
Snopes on the rumors that the Mossad was behind 9/11
The Rumor that 4,000 Jews didn’t come to work on 9/11
Kashrus magazine and its supervision guide
Find your Jewish calendar birthday
What will happen when most of the world’s Jews live in Israel?
What have Jews contributed to the world?
Learn Hebrew for free with Foundation Stone
A Variety of online Hebrew resources
An English to Hebrew translator
The ancient Hebrew alphabet, among others
Type in Hebrew online and cut and paste
Videos
You Should See
Terrorists Using UN Ambulances -- article
The MFA site with Seeds Of Hatred on it (there are other video pages to look through)
(for the above, thank you crooklynheeb)
First, some
Koranic contradictions
-Mohammed
in Sura
to "enter into the holy land which Allah
has assigned
to you". While Mohammed later criticizes
the Jews for
their sins and their refusal to accept
Mohammed's
message, he never says that, as
punishment, Allah has
revoked their title to the land. Hence the
title still
stands, and Muslim anti-Zionists are
apostates.
-A
case could even be made that
the Arabs in the 1948 war was a judgment by
Allah
against the Arabs for their apostasy in
opposing the
Jews.
This
would be their just reward for transgressing Sura
2:190,
which says, "Fight in the way of Allah against
those who fight against you, but begin
not
hostilities."
-Moreover, Sura 60:9 forbids aiding the enemies of
the Muslim people.
Contrast
this with the Palestinians' continued support
of Saddam Hussein, whose hands are red with
the blood
of Iranian, Kurdish, and Kuwaiti Muslims.
-The
Jews' return from 19 centuries of exile is
actually the fulfillment of
Islamic prophecy. Sura 17:104 says that "when the
promise of the Hereafter comes to pass, We
[Allah]
shall bring you as a crowd gathered out
of various
nations".
-Sura 17:4 says,
"And We [Allah] gave (clear) warning
to the children of
on the earth and be elated with mighty
arrogance (and twice would they be punished)!" The succeeding verses tell
us that the punishment referred to was banishment from the land. But
"twice" means
twice, not three times; hence the Jews,
having been
banished from the land once by the
Babylonians and a
second time by
the land. According to the Koran,
nation.
-Sura 83:1 says,
"Woe to those that deal in fraud";
yet Yasser Arafat
reneged on his promise to guard Joseph's Tomb in
-The Palestinians deny that there ever was a
Jewish
destruction of the
Bible's claim that the
-Sura 17:4 says,
"And We [Allah] gave (clear) warning
to the children of
on the earth and be elated with mighty
arrogance (and twice would they be punished)!" The succeeding verses tell
us that the punishment referred to was banishment from the land. But
"twice" means
twice, not three times; hence the Jews,
having been
banished from the land once by the
Babylonians and a
second time by
the land. According to the Koran,
According to a fatwa from Shaykh
Sha'rawi (the eminent
scholar who came to
prayed in the al-Aqsa mosque),in
where Muslims are free to practice their religion - and
especially to assemble five times a day for the
compulsory prayers - is not "Dar al-harb"
(Realm of
War), but must be named according to a new category,
"Dar al-islah"
(Realm of Prosperity); Muslims must be loyal citizens
of "Dar al-islah" countries,
such as
the Koran commands Moslems to
terrorize and torture
and kill anyone who disobeys
Allah and Mohammed
"...I will cast terror
into the hearts of those who
have disbelieved, so strike them
over the necks and
smite over all their fingers and
toes. This is because
they defied and disobeyed Allah
and His Messenger (Muhammad). And
whoever defies and disobeys Allah
and His Messenger,
them verily, Allah is Severe in
punishment. This is
(the
torment), so taste it; and surely, for the
disbelievers is the torment of the
Fire" (
Al-Anfal 8:12-14).
"The recompense of those
who wage war against Allah
and His Messenger (Muhammad) and
do mischief in the
land is only that they shall be
killed or crucified or
their hands and feet be cut off
from opposite sides, or be
exiled from the land. That is their
disgrace in this
world, and a great torment is
theirs in the Hereafter"
(
Islam is a prison with no way
out. Once a person
enters that prison, he cannot leave
it alive.
"But if they turn back
(from Islam), take (hold of)
them and kill them wherever you
find them, and take
neither Aouliya
(protectors or friends) nor helpers
from them" (
This verse means that if a
person says the Islamic
Shahada (creed): "I testify
that there is no God but
Allah, I testify that
Muhammad is the Messenger of
Allah," he cannot change
his mind. If he does change his mind, he will
be executed or beheaded as has
happened many times in
Islamic
countries.
There are only 4
requirements for one to be the Messiah, and Jesus didn't fulfill a single one
of them. These are:
Qualifications to be the Messiah
In order to be the Messiah, one must be alive. There is no concept in the Torah
that discusses the idea of Messiah rising from the dead. This is a fallacy made
up to justify the death of Jesus before fulfilling the prophecies of Ezekiel,
Zechariah and Isaiah.
Furthermore, in order to be the Messiah, one must be of patrilineal
decent from the house of King David. Since Jesus, according to Christian
Theology, had no father, he can not be of patrilineal
decent from anybody. On the other hand, if Christians admit that Joseph was
Jesus’ father, then he is no longer a deity, but only human.
Therefore, because of his death, and his “lack of a father” (according to the
Christians), Jesus was not qualified to be the Messiah according to Jewish law.
What the Messiah Must Do
In order to be the Messiah, one must do the following things before he dies.
-He must build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28)
-He must gather all the Jews back to the Land of Israel (Is. 43:5-6)
- He must usher in an era of world peace and bring an end to hatred,
oppression, suffering and disease (Is. 2:4)
- He must spread the knowledge of the G-d of Israel, uniting the entire world
as one (Zechariah 14:9)
In fact Jesus did none of these things. The
Contradictions Between Jesus’ Law and the Torah
Jesus taught the concept of G-d as Three (Trinity). He claimed that there is a
“father”, a “son” and a “holy spirit”. This concept is directly opposed to the
words of the Torah. For instance, “Hear O Israel, the L-rd our G-d, the L-rd is
ONE” (Deut. 6:4). This is one of the basic precepts of Jewish belief. The idea
of three gods is considered idolatry, one of the three cardinal sins that every
Jew must die before committing.
Christians believe that Jesus said that he was G-d when he said “I and the
Father are One” (John
Judaism believes that the Messiah will be born of human parents and will be
human himself, with physical attributes like all other people. This is clearly
stated by Maimonides among others. Therefore, if
Jesus is G-d, as the Christians believe, he cannot be the Messiah. And if he is
the Messiah, he must be born of human parents, and cannot, therefore, be G-d.
Christianity believes that the prayers of the people must go through Jesus. “No
man cometh unto the Father but me.” This is diametrically opposed to the Torah
which states “G-d is near to all who call unto Him” (Ps. 145:18). Further one
of the Ten Commandments is “Thou shalt have no other
gods BEFORE ME.” Therefore, the concept of Jesus as an intermediary for prayer
is against the Torah.
The concept of a “New Testament” which overrides the laws of the Torah is in
direct violation of the Torah. It states in Deuteronomy 13:1 “there may be no
additions, nor subtractions from this law”. Furthermore, G-d states very
clearly that he will never forsake his covenant with his people. The concept of a “New Testament”, which both adds new laws and
eliminates the requirements of the old ones, goes against the Torah.
The “Proofs” of Jesus in the Torah
Many Christians try to use the words of the Torah as proofs that Jesus is G-d
and/or the Messiah. Most of these “proofs” are deliberate mistranslation from
the original Hebrew or cases of the words being taken out of context. Here are
two common, often-used examples of the “proofs” used by the Christians.
- “Isaiah 53 discusses a suffering servant who will die and be rejected.
Surely this passage proves that Jesus is the Messiah.”
Actually, no, it proves nothing of the sort. The “Suffering Servant” passages used by Christians does not refer to Jesus at all.
It refers to the “House of Israel”, all Jews, who will suffer because of their
own sins. Many people ask, “If these sentences refer to all Jews, why is it in
the singular rather than plural?” The answer is simple. The Torah is filled
with many cases of singular use, which actually refers to all of
Actually, if read correctly, the Christian interpretation
makes little sense. “He shall grow up as a plant” (Is. 53:2) refers to
the future, while “He is despised and rejected” (Is. 53:3) refers to the
present, and “Surely He has born or grief and carried our sorrows” (Is. 53:4)
and “But He was wounded for our transgressions” (Is. 53:5) both refer to the
past. If the entire passage referred to Jesus, wouldn’t it all be in one tense?
If it refers to Jesus in the present, how can it also refer to him in the past
and in the future? Obviously, the passage refers to something else. However, if
interpreted in the Jewish way, it makes perfect sense. Isaiah is saying that
that the Jewish people will develop like a plant as a source of nourishment (in
the future) despite being despised and rejected by all the nations (in the
present) and despite having been persecuted and enslaved by the Egyptians,
Philistines and others (in the past). Thus the Jewish interpretation has none
of the difficulties of the Christian version.
- “Psalm 22 speaks of one who is rejected by his own people and taunted and
mocked. This obviously refers to the events ascribed to Jesus in Mathew 26 and
27. It even refers to hands and feet being pierced, a sure reference to Jesus.”
Again, this Christian interpretation has many difficulties. The question is
whether this passage can refer to anyone besides Jesus, or is this reference
exclusively to Jesus alone. The answer is that Psalm 22 could refer to others
as well. For instance, many commentators feel that this passage refers to all
of
For instance, many Jews felt they were forsaken during the Holocaust. They were
not permitted to immigrate to any other country during the 1930’s. They were
starved in the concentration camps (“may tell my bones” (Ps.
The key point that Christians make to prove that Psalm 22 is a reference to
Jesus is references to limbs being pierced. The passage says (according to
Christian translation) “For dogs have surrounded me, the assembly of the wicked
have enclosed me; they pierce my hands and feet.” (Ps. 22:16) However, the
Hebrew word used in the sentence is “Ka’ari”. This
word means “like a lion”. This sentence is meant to be translated as follows:
“For dogs have surrounded me, the assembly of the wicked have
enclosed me; like a lion who has my hands and feet.” As a matter of fact, the
Hebrew language has no word for “pierce”, neither in ancient nor modern Hebrew. Thus the use of the word “pierce” as a
translation of “Ka’ari” is a falsehood, and further
proof of the fallacy of Jesus.
